Comments on: No, no, no http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/ Full of sound and furry Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:20:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: DB http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3189 DB Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:56:40 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3189 Laroquod: Actually, it’s quite debatable whether there is in fact an “Apple tax” and, if there is, how much it might be and whether it is a fair premium to pay for a superior product. However, that isn’t the point here. Use of the word “debate” implies that the participants play fair, and Kay does nothing of the sort. Attempting to muddy the waters of with arrant falsification and blatant manipulation of logic and facts amounts to a highbrow version of schoolyard name-calling, and the Mythical One simply is responding in kind. Laroquod: Actually, it’s quite debatable whether there is in fact an “Apple tax” and, if there is, how much it might be and whether it is a fair premium to pay for a superior product. However, that isn’t the point here.

Use of the word “debate” implies that the participants play fair, and Kay does nothing of the sort. Attempting to muddy the waters of with arrant falsification and blatant manipulation of logic and facts amounts to a highbrow version of schoolyard name-calling, and the Mythical One simply is responding in kind.

]]> By: Murrquan http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3188 Murrquan Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:45:36 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3188 @Laroquod, Mac users do know that they're paying more, but the concept of an "Apple tax" suggests that they're paying more for nothing. I would submit that this is the biggest problem with Microsoft's approach: They have no idea why Macs are so successful, and blame all of the numerous switchers on some ephemeral "coolness" factor. Either that or they do know why Macs are trouncing PCs, but they also know they can't do anything about it. I personally use Ubuntu on my PC, but would prefer that it were as usable as Leopard. And I've spent a great deal of time and energy tweaking it to be that way. I can't blame someone who's not as concerned with openness for just paying the money to Apple for a more user-friendly experience up-front, even if I disagree with them. @Laroquod,

Mac users do know that they’re paying more, but the concept of an “Apple tax” suggests that they’re paying more for nothing.

I would submit that this is the biggest problem with Microsoft’s approach: They have no idea why Macs are so successful, and blame all of the numerous switchers on some ephemeral “coolness” factor. Either that or they do know why Macs are trouncing PCs, but they also know they can’t do anything about it.

I personally use Ubuntu on my PC, but would prefer that it were as usable as Leopard. And I’ve spent a great deal of time and energy tweaking it to be that way. I can’t blame someone who’s not as concerned with openness for just paying the money to Apple for a more user-friendly experience up-front, even if I disagree with them.

]]> By: Laroquod http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3187 Laroquod Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:33:14 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3187 Everybody knows that Macs are more expensive. This is not even in dispute anymore in polite society. By pretending this counterargument doesn't exist you are losing the argument by default, and ensuring that you will preach only to the converted, because on this planet at this time, only very hardcore unshakeably-faithed Mac users will dispute that there is an 'Apple tax', though that is a stupid name for it. Everybody knows that Macs are more expensive. This is not even in dispute anymore in polite society. By pretending this counterargument doesn’t exist you are losing the argument by default, and ensuring that you will preach only to the converted, because on this planet at this time, only very hardcore unshakeably-faithed Mac users will dispute that there is an ‘Apple tax’, though that is a stupid name for it.

]]> By: Rip Ragged http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3186 Rip Ragged Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:05:20 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3186 Emma, The Macalope's real name can be discovered using simple differential calculus and a 007 decoder ring. You must be smart enough to figure it out and stupid enough to waste the time. . Emma,
The Macalope’s real name can be discovered using simple differential calculus and a 007 decoder ring. You must be smart enough to figure it out and stupid enough to waste the time. .

]]> By: The Church of Apple http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3185 The Church of Apple Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:55:55 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3185 @STEVEN Re:THEOTHERSTEVEJOBS: I second that. @Macalope: Re: "If they spent half the time they spend filling out fake tax forms and paying actresses to buy their products actually making a good user experience, they might be able to speak about value with an iota of credibility. But probably not." "Innovation has nothing to do with how many R&D dollars you have…It's not about money. It's about the people you have, how you're led, and how much you get it." This is the word of Jobs (thanks be to Apple) @STEVEN Re:THEOTHERSTEVEJOBS:

I second that.

@Macalope: Re: “If they spent half the time they spend filling out fake tax forms and paying actresses to buy their products actually making a good user experience, they might be able to speak about value with an iota of credibility. But probably not.”

“Innovation has nothing to do with how many R&D dollars you have…It’s not about money. It’s about the people you have, how you’re led, and how much you get it.”
This is the word of Jobs (thanks be to Apple)

]]> By: 面经 http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3184 面经 Tue, 14 Apr 2009 04:07:02 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3184 ms = evil ms = evil

]]> By: kellyp http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3183 kellyp Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:48:47 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3183 MS should just send an email to Apple threatening them into bundling Internet Explorer with their PCs. Or maybe they could buy Apple and shelf all their technology. Or better yet they could just rewrite Objective-C and Cocoa and call it IronCocoa or Objective-C# .Net. MS should just send an email to Apple threatening them into bundling Internet Explorer with their PCs. Or maybe they could buy Apple and shelf all their technology. Or better yet they could just rewrite Objective-C and Cocoa and call it IronCocoa or Objective-C# .Net.

]]> By: Mark http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3182 Mark Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:20:07 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3182 That descent featured the same sort of disconnect with their customers, even though they had overwhelmingly commanded the domestic car market for decades. That descent featured the same sort of disconnect with their customers, even though they had overwhelmingly commanded the domestic car market for decades.

]]> By: Mark http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3181 Mark Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:12:53 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3181 Jussi replies: "[Microsoft] won’t go anywhere in next 15-20 years." U.S. auto manufacturers started their descent nearly 35 years ago. Jussi replies: “[Microsoft] won’t go anywhere in next 15-20 years.”

U.S. auto manufacturers started their descent nearly 35 years ago.

]]> By: Jussi http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3180 Jussi Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:49:51 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2009/04/09/no-no-no/#comment-3180 Mark said: "Microsoft’s disconnect from the consumer. It seems they are intent on going the way of the U.S. auto makers." They would probably go that way if there was an equivalent of the Japanese auto makers around. Too bad globally Microsoft is almost as ubiquitous as ever. Apple's success in US consumer space makes that segment a bit healthier but over all there is no competition to Microsoft. If one is unhappy to Vista, what are the options? XP, Linuxen and Apple. Apple is one vendor solution that runs on specific hardware, Linux is still too complex on many levels. In addition to that running existing software needs third party solutions. (Boot Camp does not cut it) No matter how poor operating systems and other products Microsoft will make in the future or even if it would stop developing all together, it won't go anywhere in next 15-20 years. Sad but true. Mark said: “Microsoft’s disconnect from the consumer. It seems they are intent on going the way of the U.S. auto makers.”

They would probably go that way if there was an equivalent of the Japanese auto makers around. Too bad globally Microsoft is almost as ubiquitous as ever. Apple’s success in US consumer space makes that segment a bit healthier but over all there is no competition to Microsoft.

If one is unhappy to Vista, what are the options? XP, Linuxen and Apple. Apple is one vendor solution that runs on specific hardware, Linux is still too complex on many levels. In addition to that running existing software needs third party solutions. (Boot Camp does not cut it)

No matter how poor operating systems and other products Microsoft will make in the future or even if it would stop developing all together, it won’t go anywhere in next 15-20 years. Sad but true.

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