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	<title>Comments on: iFlop?</title>
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	<description>Apple news and analysis from everyone's favorite mythical Mac user</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Elder Norm</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/05/15/iflop/#comment-108324</link>
		<dc:creator>Elder Norm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys,  Its late but not too late. :-)   

9-16-08....... iPhone 8 gig.......$199.

iPod touch  ...... $229.

iPod nano 4th gen   $ 149 for 8 gig.    

Apple improves and gets cheaper,   everyone else skates to where the puck WAS.  LOL

Just a thought.   en</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys,  Its late but not too late. :-)   </p>
<p>9-16-08&#8230;&#8230;. iPhone 8 gig&#8230;&#8230;.$199.</p>
<p>iPod touch  &#8230;&#8230; $229.</p>
<p>iPod nano 4th gen   $ 149 for 8 gig.    </p>
<p>Apple improves and gets cheaper,   everyone else skates to where the puck WAS.  LOL</p>
<p>Just a thought.   en</p>
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		<title>By: Cal</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/05/15/iflop/#comment-30972</link>
		<dc:creator>Cal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 03:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The iPhone iFails.

Aside from the hardest of hardcore Apple fans and millionaires who just have to get every new gadget, the overpriced and underdelivering iPhone will have very limited appeal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The iPhone iFails.</p>
<p>Aside from the hardest of hardcore Apple fans and millionaires who just have to get every new gadget, the overpriced and underdelivering iPhone will have very limited appeal.</p>
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		<title>By: mac mcrae</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/05/15/iflop/#comment-24218</link>
		<dc:creator>mac mcrae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 17:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merlin you are a comic giant among many stoic geeks of pod casting. You are by far the best reason to listen to macbreak. I used "iFlop" when commenting on iphone rumors on digg in January.  And I got dug down 10 times doing it. So is it safe to use now? http://digg.com/apple/Apple_to_touch_off_Nuclear_War_Steve_Jobs_may_unveil_Pocket_Mac
Do you know of any mentions of iFlop on the web before that date? Might I be the originator of this cute little meme? Dawkins FTW.
The reason the iphone will fail:
1 It is too damn expensive. 2 Not enough storage to be a viable music or video player. 3 All of the super keen gadgets will devour the phone's battery life. 3 Too many other phones on the market already do what the iphone is trying better.

BTW - Lemme do you another macalope logo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merlin you are a comic giant among many stoic geeks of pod casting. You are by far the best reason to listen to macbreak. I used &#8220;iFlop&#8221; when commenting on iphone rumors on digg in January.  And I got dug down 10 times doing it. So is it safe to use now? <a href="http://digg.com/apple/Apple_to_touch_off_Nuclear_War_Steve_Jobs_may_unveil_Pocket_Mac" rel="nofollow">http://digg.com/apple/Apple_to_touch_off_Nuclear_War_Steve_Jobs_may_unveil_Pocket_Mac</a><br />
Do you know of any mentions of iFlop on the web before that date? Might I be the originator of this cute little meme? Dawkins FTW.<br />
The reason the iphone will fail:<br />
1 It is too damn expensive. 2 Not enough storage to be a viable music or video player. 3 All of the super keen gadgets will devour the phone&#8217;s battery life. 3 Too many other phones on the market already do what the iphone is trying better.</p>
<p>BTW - Lemme do you another macalope logo.</p>
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		<title>By: KenC</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/05/15/iflop/#comment-21443</link>
		<dc:creator>KenC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 05:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy who writes for 24/7 is a long-time Apple basher who just doesn't know what he's talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy who writes for 24/7 is a long-time Apple basher who just doesn&#8217;t know what he&#8217;s talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Flarg</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/05/15/iflop/#comment-21401</link>
		<dc:creator>Flarg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 23:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two main reasons why I won't buy an iPhone in its current incarnation:

1. I have Verizon, and have been really happy with the coverage throughout the US. Where I live (admittedly a lesser-populated state in the country), Cingular has a reputation for inadequate or no coverage. It would absurd for me to switch carriers.

2. The closed platform idea really bugs me. I have a Newton and an eMate, and third party development is what made this platform something special.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two main reasons why I won&#8217;t buy an iPhone in its current incarnation:</p>
<p>1. I have Verizon, and have been really happy with the coverage throughout the US. Where I live (admittedly a lesser-populated state in the country), Cingular has a reputation for inadequate or no coverage. It would absurd for me to switch carriers.</p>
<p>2. The closed platform idea really bugs me. I have a Newton and an eMate, and third party development is what made this platform something special.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Fleishman</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/05/15/iflop/#comment-21376</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Fleishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 18:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[The cancellation fee] "needs to be added to the cost for those who aren’t already Cingular customers who feel compelled to switch to the iPhone right when it comes out. Which is one of the reasons Apple went with the largest carrier." Cingular might or might not let you switch, however, without paying a fee--they don't let you out of their deals to get other phones all the time.

But, a big issue is loyalty. T-Mobile offered me $400 in cash to switch to their network. I was testing the converged UMA service here in Seattle (Wi-Fi + cell calling with a single plan/handset), and went to return the phone. They asked if they could talk me into leaving Cingular. I said, well, Cingular wants $175 each from my wife and I for early cancellation. They said, what if we paid that and gave you a $50 credit, too? 

Ultimately, the Cingular deal we have is better, and I didn't like the T-Mobile handsets well enough, among other factors. 

For AT&#38;T customers willing to sign up for two years and pay $600 for a bleeding phone, I suspect AT&#38;T might have some wiggle room on paying down other carriers' cancellation fees, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[The cancellation fee] &#8220;needs to be added to the cost for those who aren’t already Cingular customers who feel compelled to switch to the iPhone right when it comes out. Which is one of the reasons Apple went with the largest carrier.&#8221; Cingular might or might not let you switch, however, without paying a fee&#8211;they don&#8217;t let you out of their deals to get other phones all the time.</p>
<p>But, a big issue is loyalty. T-Mobile offered me $400 in cash to switch to their network. I was testing the converged UMA service here in Seattle (Wi-Fi + cell calling with a single plan/handset), and went to return the phone. They asked if they could talk me into leaving Cingular. I said, well, Cingular wants $175 each from my wife and I for early cancellation. They said, what if we paid that and gave you a $50 credit, too? </p>
<p>Ultimately, the Cingular deal we have is better, and I didn&#8217;t like the T-Mobile handsets well enough, among other factors. </p>
<p>For AT&amp;T customers willing to sign up for two years and pay $600 for a bleeding phone, I suspect AT&amp;T might have some wiggle room on paying down other carriers&#8217; cancellation fees, no?</p>
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		<title>By: ChrispyMac</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/05/15/iflop/#comment-21363</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrispyMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 16:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"If I am driving my family in my car and we are listening to the iPod, having to turn off the music to answer my phone becomes a major hassle."

I think I actually understand what he's saying - if the iPhone is connected to the car's stereo, or transmitting to the car's stereo, and a phone call comes in, the music will stop or fade for the duration of the call. He would prefer that the music keep playing. Of course, as everyone else pointed out:
  1) can you hear the peron you're talking to while the music's playing;
  2) should you be distracted by a phone call while you're driving?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If I am driving my family in my car and we are listening to the iPod, having to turn off the music to answer my phone becomes a major hassle.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think I actually understand what he&#8217;s saying - if the iPhone is connected to the car&#8217;s stereo, or transmitting to the car&#8217;s stereo, and a phone call comes in, the music will stop or fade for the duration of the call. He would prefer that the music keep playing. Of course, as everyone else pointed out:<br />
  1) can you hear the peron you&#8217;re talking to while the music&#8217;s playing;<br />
  2) should you be distracted by a phone call while you&#8217;re driving?</p>
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		<title>By: Church of Apple</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/05/15/iflop/#comment-21361</link>
		<dc:creator>Church of Apple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 16:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey now, the cube was an awesome device if you enjoyed getting homicidally frustrated plugging things into it.

Good point with the syncing, however, Apple better come out with a better way to create and store contact photos... 'caaaaaause those tiny lil' address book pics on a 128 x 160 pixel external display look like poop.

I also think Sullivan "doesn't get it", but I'm quite shocked by how much else he doesn't get. 

Like basic human functionality.

No one NEEDS "all in one" devices if they're not carrying them around or constrained for space or something. Of course, that makes sense to ME cause I think listening to music while I'm talking on the phone while I'm driving my family down the highway is more tasks than I'm capable of handling.

Well, maybe he's just an amazing multitasker...ooooooor, maybe he has two extra mutant arms he's not telling us about!

O_o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey now, the cube was an awesome device if you enjoyed getting homicidally frustrated plugging things into it.</p>
<p>Good point with the syncing, however, Apple better come out with a better way to create and store contact photos&#8230; &#8216;caaaaaause those tiny lil&#8217; address book pics on a 128 x 160 pixel external display look like poop.</p>
<p>I also think Sullivan &#8220;doesn&#8217;t get it&#8221;, but I&#8217;m quite shocked by how much else he doesn&#8217;t get. </p>
<p>Like basic human functionality.</p>
<p>No one NEEDS &#8220;all in one&#8221; devices if they&#8217;re not carrying them around or constrained for space or something. Of course, that makes sense to ME cause I think listening to music while I&#8217;m talking on the phone while I&#8217;m driving my family down the highway is more tasks than I&#8217;m capable of handling.</p>
<p>Well, maybe he&#8217;s just an amazing multitasker&#8230;ooooooor, maybe he has two extra mutant arms he&#8217;s not telling us about!</p>
<p>O_o</p>
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		<title>By: Nagromme</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/05/15/iflop/#comment-21355</link>
		<dc:creator>Nagromme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 15:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny. I feel like focussing on my favorite sub-point:

&#62; I do not want to have to turn off my music to get a phone call.

Please tell me--WHAT method of listening to music do you NOT have to turn off to get a call? Home stereo? Car stereo? CD player? Audio tape? iPod? Zune? One-man band making minimum wage to follow you around?

How would you ever avoid having to turn off your music to take a call? The best you can do is have that be automatic... which the iPhone delivers, while whatever Todd Sullivan uses now does not.

The only thing I can think is that Mr. Sullivan doesn't want his kids to be deprived of music for even a moment as they ride seatbelt-less in the front seat beside him. He' rather shout on the phone while the music blares on. That's OK--the iPhone in no way prevents him from listening to music in whatever way he already likes, and leaving it playing while he drives, eats, reads a book, and talks on the phone (possible all at once).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny. I feel like focussing on my favorite sub-point:</p>
<p>&gt; I do not want to have to turn off my music to get a phone call.</p>
<p>Please tell me&#8211;WHAT method of listening to music do you NOT have to turn off to get a call? Home stereo? Car stereo? CD player? Audio tape? iPod? Zune? One-man band making minimum wage to follow you around?</p>
<p>How would you ever avoid having to turn off your music to take a call? The best you can do is have that be automatic&#8230; which the iPhone delivers, while whatever Todd Sullivan uses now does not.</p>
<p>The only thing I can think is that Mr. Sullivan doesn&#8217;t want his kids to be deprived of music for even a moment as they ride seatbelt-less in the front seat beside him. He&#8217; rather shout on the phone while the music blares on. That&#8217;s OK&#8211;the iPhone in no way prevents him from listening to music in whatever way he already likes, and leaving it playing while he drives, eats, reads a book, and talks on the phone (possible all at once).</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Moren</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/05/15/iflop/#comment-21348</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Moren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 14:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O Macalope, once again you and I think alike. Someday, we shall have a beer (or whatever it is that macalopes drink). 

http://www.macuser.com/iphone/analyst_iphone_is_going_to_flo.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O Macalope, once again you and I think alike. Someday, we shall have a beer (or whatever it is that macalopes drink). </p>
<p><a href="http://www.macuser.com/iphone/analyst_iphone_is_going_to_flo.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.macuser.com/iphone/analyst_iphone_is_going_to_flo.php</a></p>
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