Comments on: Don’t hate the phone http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/ Apple news and analysis from everyone's favorite mythical Mac user Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:11:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Peter Frafrahafnanfraggle http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/#comment-15621 Peter Frafrahafnanfraggle Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:52 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/#comment-15621 Even if the iPhone delayed Mac OS X Leopard and 6G iPod it is a small price to pay for the preview of future Apple products that iPhone provided. After seeing the iPhone introduction, it's not hard to imagine what the 6G iPod video looks like. It's not hard to imagine Apple's next line of displays has multi-touch on it to go with the same resolution-independent graphics subsystem as iPhone. The iPhone is a preview of every next generation Apple product in one way or another. Even if you don't use a phone and won't buy an iPhone you can see great things for Mac or iPod in the iPhone. Even if the iPhone delayed Mac OS X Leopard and 6G iPod it is a small price to pay for the preview of future Apple products that iPhone provided.

After seeing the iPhone introduction, it’s not hard to imagine what the 6G iPod video looks like. It’s not hard to imagine Apple’s next line of displays has multi-touch on it to go with the same resolution-independent graphics subsystem as iPhone.

The iPhone is a preview of every next generation Apple product in one way or another. Even if you don’t use a phone and won’t buy an iPhone you can see great things for Mac or iPod in the iPhone.

]]> By: Church of Apple http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/#comment-15455 Church of Apple Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:04:38 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/#comment-15455 Don't think it can happen? Well I called this! One week ago: "Steve Jobs KNOWS he can make a perfect media system. They probably already HAVE one somewhere at an Apple R&D center!" Today: http://blogs.business2.com/apple/2007/04/patent_for_the_.html BAM! Don’t think it can happen? Well I called this!

One week ago:
“Steve Jobs KNOWS he can make a perfect media system. They probably already HAVE one somewhere at an Apple R&D center!”

Today:
http://blogs.business2.com/apple/2007/04/patent_for_the_.html

BAM!

]]> By: Astrobadger http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/#comment-15454 Astrobadger Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:46:36 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/#comment-15454 Does anyone else think that possibly another major reason 10.5 is delayed is because of new hardware upgrades to the Mac lineup? I know it's a bit out there but ya gotta admit, that multi-touch feature will sooner or later make itself into the Mac interface. Plus, blaming the iPhone for the delay is easy, everyone already knows about that device. Hmmmmmmm? Does anyone else think that possibly another major reason 10.5 is delayed is because of new hardware upgrades to the Mac lineup? I know it’s a bit out there but ya gotta admit, that multi-touch feature will sooner or later make itself into the Mac interface. Plus, blaming the iPhone for the delay is easy, everyone already knows about that device.

Hmmmmmmm?

]]> By: Bergamot http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/#comment-15450 Bergamot Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:09:12 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/#comment-15450 "Mark — if OSX is the “core” of Apple’s business, why has the OS development group at Apple only grown 10% in the last five years, and there are more people works in the Apps group than OSX?" I would imagine because a huge portion of new Leopard features are App improvements, not OS improvements. Just because it's all boxed together and called an "Operating System Upgrade" doesn't mean everything in it should be written by the OS team. Actually, ignoring high-level APIs like CoreAnimation, the only really big OS feature is 64 bit support. “Mark — if OSX is the “core” of Apple’s business, why has the OS development group at Apple only grown 10% in the last five years, and there are more people works in the Apps group than OSX?”

I would imagine because a huge portion of new Leopard features are App improvements, not OS improvements. Just because it’s all boxed together and called an “Operating System Upgrade” doesn’t mean everything in it should be written by the OS team.

Actually, ignoring high-level APIs like CoreAnimation, the only really big OS feature is 64 bit support.

]]> By: BKWatch http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/#comment-15403 BKWatch Sun, 15 Apr 2007 19:39:07 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/#comment-15403 Mark -- if OSX is the "core" of Apple's business, why has the OS development group at Apple only grown 10% in the last five years, and there are more people works in the Apps group than OSX? (from Daring Fireball). Let's not mince words: This delay is a huge loss -- the window for catching Vista users is closing, and Apple needs to at least annouce a coupon program that new Mac buyers gets 10.5 free in the fall.... Mark — if OSX is the “core” of Apple’s business, why has the OS development group at Apple only grown 10% in the last five years, and there are more people works in the Apps group than OSX? (from Daring Fireball).

Let’s not mince words: This delay is a huge loss — the window for catching Vista users is closing, and Apple needs to at least annouce a coupon program that new Mac buyers gets 10.5 free in the fall….

]]> By: Cannibal http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/#comment-15388 Cannibal Sun, 15 Apr 2007 14:10:40 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/#comment-15388 i will chime in... I have not purchased a new computer since my (problem child) Gen 1 G5 iMac (20 inch). i am planning to buy a MacBook Pro (17 inch) when 10.5 ships with it. i think a number of people are waiting to buy. hardware hasn't gotten a real bump in quite sometime (the new Mac Pro is nice - but it wasn't even exciting enough for Apple to make a big deal out of the news...). for me, i was dissappointed to hear that the iPhone had pushed back the release of the new OS. the OS is the core of the user experience on the computer side of Apple Inc. As the centerpeice of the computer experience ihate to see it take a back seat to anything. an interesting point, though - is that the release of the iPhone in the summer will generate sales for that quarter,and with an october release of the OS they start sales in the next quarter - so spacing them out gives a sturdier business plan / roadmap. thoughts? i will chime in…

I have not purchased a new computer since my (problem child) Gen 1 G5 iMac (20 inch).

i am planning to buy a MacBook Pro (17 inch) when 10.5 ships with it.

i think a number of people are waiting to buy. hardware hasn’t gotten a real bump in quite sometime (the new Mac Pro is nice - but it wasn’t even exciting enough for Apple to make a big deal out of the news…).

for me, i was dissappointed to hear that the iPhone had pushed back the release of the new OS. the OS is the core of the user experience on the computer side of Apple Inc. As the centerpeice of the computer experience ihate to see it take a back seat to anything.

an interesting point, though - is that the release of the iPhone in the summer will generate sales for that quarter,and with an october release of the OS they start sales in the next quarter - so spacing them out gives a sturdier business plan / roadmap.

thoughts?

]]> By: E B http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/#comment-15336 E B Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:12:18 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/#comment-15336 Leopard stop Windows users from switching? Mais non! Me: Mac newbie, a few days over 2 months, 20" iMac replacing a Windows Media System box that crashed at least 12 times during the 2 years I had it, each crash resulting in data loss and the need to reinstall the system, the need to eventually have to phone Microsoft to be allowed to reinstall the OS, since their !@%#$^@%^&* "activation" system only will work so many times w/out their help, etc. I played with an iMac at a Best Buy for 20 minutes and became a convert, although I made my purchase at an Apple Store in a mall literally across the street from that Best Buy. I'd used Microsoft's products since 1984, MS-DOS 1.1 on a Sanyo MBC550. I was a Microsoft Partner, still am until May 1st. Media Center (XP with a TV tuner, whoooee) and the release candidate of Vista completely, permanently soured me on Microsoft. The use-ability and functionality of OS X - it's as though I'd used a sort of a promise of a computer for the last 20 years or so, until now. I still can't get over how I haven't had to purchase any other software, and that there's hundreds of free or ridiculously affordable programs available to more than adequately replace those I used to use on Windows. Use, that is, after I'd spent time updating the anti-virus and spyware programs and seeing around 45 minutes every 2nd Tuesday of the month disappear waiting for Windows Update to do... whatever it is that takes so long. Checking for updates on OS X? 2 minutes, tops. I'll happily buy Leopard when it arrives, a *full* system for the same price or less than an upgrade to Vista. Leopard stop Windows users from switching? Mais non! Me: Mac newbie, a few days over 2 months, 20″ iMac replacing a Windows Media System box that crashed at least 12 times during the 2 years I had it, each crash resulting in data loss and the need to reinstall the system, the need to eventually have to phone Microsoft to be allowed to reinstall the OS, since their !@%#$^@%^&* “activation” system only will work so many times w/out their help, etc. I played with an iMac at a Best Buy for 20 minutes and became a convert, although I made my purchase at an Apple Store in a mall literally across the street from that Best Buy. I’d used Microsoft’s products since 1984, MS-DOS 1.1 on a Sanyo MBC550. I was a Microsoft Partner, still am until May 1st. Media Center (XP with a TV tuner, whoooee) and the release candidate of Vista completely, permanently soured me on Microsoft.

The use-ability and functionality of OS X - it’s as though I’d used a sort of a promise of a computer for the last 20 years or so, until now. I still can’t get over how I haven’t had to purchase any other software, and that there’s hundreds of free or ridiculously affordable programs available to more than adequately replace those I used to use on Windows. Use, that is, after I’d spent time updating the anti-virus and spyware programs and seeing around 45 minutes every 2nd Tuesday of the month disappear waiting for Windows Update to do… whatever it is that takes so long. Checking for updates on OS X? 2 minutes, tops. I’ll happily buy Leopard when it arrives, a *full* system for the same price or less than an upgrade to Vista.

]]> By: Blain http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/#comment-15302 Blain Sat, 14 Apr 2007 08:43:53 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/#comment-15302 Wait a minute. Weren't we also hand-wringing about smart phones and WinCE? Not WinCE itself, but smart phones having geewhiz MP3 players built in, possibly endangering the iPod? The whole 'OMG my phone plays 2GB of MP3s I don't need to have a second device on me' situation? Whatever happened to that? Another thought that floats in my mind: the money is that the iPhone runs on ARM chips. Which also run WinCE phones and embedded systems. I wonder how much will be ported over a la MacOSX86. Wait a minute. Weren’t we also hand-wringing about smart phones and WinCE? Not WinCE itself, but smart phones having geewhiz MP3 players built in, possibly endangering the iPod? The whole ‘OMG my phone plays 2GB of MP3s I don’t need to have a second device on me’ situation? Whatever happened to that?

Another thought that floats in my mind: the money is that the iPhone runs on ARM chips. Which also run WinCE phones and embedded systems. I wonder how much will be ported over a la MacOSX86.

]]> By: Marsman http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/#comment-15300 Marsman Sat, 14 Apr 2007 08:14:31 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/2007/04/13/dont-hate-the-phone/#comment-15300 Here's an interesting thought: The general expectation was that the iPhone would be tightly integrated with Leopard (and some cool new features, whatever they may be)... Now, iPhone is expected to ship 4 months before the OS upgrade - will this in any way compromise the iPhone "experience" from late June to October? Here’s an interesting thought: The general expectation was that the iPhone would be tightly integrated with Leopard (and some cool new features, whatever they may be)…

Now, iPhone is expected to ship 4 months before the OS upgrade - will this in any way compromise the iPhone “experience” from late June to October?

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