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		<title>By: Ron Hitler-Barassi</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/03/20/nazi-apple-supermen-are-our-superiors/#comment-12030</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Hitler-Barassi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 03:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"A better word for your usage is “pedant.”"

No soup for you! - signed, the Soup Pedant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A better word for your usage is “pedant.”&#8221;</p>
<p>No soup for you! - signed, the Soup Pedant.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Godwin</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/03/20/nazi-apple-supermen-are-our-superiors/#comment-11596</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Godwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, I have no trouble with Macalope's use of "Nazi" tropes here, since they're deliberately and obviously parodic.


--Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, I have no trouble with Macalope&#8217;s use of &#8220;Nazi&#8221; tropes here, since they&#8217;re deliberately and obviously parodic.</p>
<p>&#8211;Mike</p>
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		<title>By: The Macalope</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/03/20/nazi-apple-supermen-are-our-superiors/#comment-11329</link>
		<dc:creator>The Macalope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron,

That's not a bad argument, but it would be more convincing if your use of the word "Nazi" to describe those who ask people not to use the word "Nazi" because it's a personally painful for them weren't so inappropriate.

A better word for your usage is "pedant."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not a bad argument, but it would be more convincing if your use of the word &#8220;Nazi&#8221; to describe those who ask people not to use the word &#8220;Nazi&#8221; because it&#8217;s a personally painful for them weren&#8217;t so inappropriate.</p>
<p>A better word for your usage is &#8220;pedant.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Hitler-Barassi</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/03/20/nazi-apple-supermen-are-our-superiors/#comment-11298</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Hitler-Barassi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Godwin stuff is getting out of control. Macalope, you should not need to explain or apologize for the use of the word "Nazi" in your post. The fact that you had to do this shows just how much power that these Nazi Nazis have over the internet.

The sad thing is that most people invoking Godwin's Law don't even understand Godwin's Law. Andre Friedman wrote:

"He doesn’t know that his invocation means the argument is over. By tradition, the invoker has witlessly announced that he’s lost the debate."

No. Godwin's law ONLY states that as a thread grows longer, the likelihood of someone invoking Hitler approaches 1 to 1. It DOES NOT state that the argument is over. It does not mean the person invoking Hitler has lost the debate.

Look at the reality - invoking Hitler or Nazis certainly does not end an argument. All the evidence points to the contrary. Invoking Hitler usually prolongs the argument, and makes new arguments blossom and prosper.

Another sad aspect of Godwin's mis-application is that quite often people are shunned or are told they have "lost the argument" when they make references to Hitler that are apt.

APT!

Please, help end the abuse of Godwin's Law. Reclaim nazi-related words in your vocabulary. Don't be silenced by the Nazi Nazis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Godwin stuff is getting out of control. Macalope, you should not need to explain or apologize for the use of the word &#8220;Nazi&#8221; in your post. The fact that you had to do this shows just how much power that these Nazi Nazis have over the internet.</p>
<p>The sad thing is that most people invoking Godwin&#8217;s Law don&#8217;t even understand Godwin&#8217;s Law. Andre Friedman wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;He doesn’t know that his invocation means the argument is over. By tradition, the invoker has witlessly announced that he’s lost the debate.&#8221;</p>
<p>No. Godwin&#8217;s law ONLY states that as a thread grows longer, the likelihood of someone invoking Hitler approaches 1 to 1. It DOES NOT state that the argument is over. It does not mean the person invoking Hitler has lost the debate.</p>
<p>Look at the reality - invoking Hitler or Nazis certainly does not end an argument. All the evidence points to the contrary. Invoking Hitler usually prolongs the argument, and makes new arguments blossom and prosper.</p>
<p>Another sad aspect of Godwin&#8217;s mis-application is that quite often people are shunned or are told they have &#8220;lost the argument&#8221; when they make references to Hitler that are apt.</p>
<p>APT!</p>
<p>Please, help end the abuse of Godwin&#8217;s Law. Reclaim nazi-related words in your vocabulary. Don&#8217;t be silenced by the Nazi Nazis.</p>
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		<title>By: The Macalope &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fool.</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/03/20/nazi-apple-supermen-are-our-superiors/#comment-11195</link>
		<dc:creator>The Macalope &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fool.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] After the Macalope took George Ou to task for his paranoid and patently false rantings and Mr. Gruber did the same, the horny one hardly expected to see them uncritically reported elsewhere. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] After the Macalope took George Ou to task for his paranoid and patently false rantings and Mr. Gruber did the same, the horny one hardly expected to see them uncritically reported elsewhere. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/03/20/nazi-apple-supermen-are-our-superiors/#comment-11070</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 05:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maynor and Ellch probably did find something actually critical, but then their quest to stub cigarettes out in Mac user eyes led them astray. So they chose a MacBook and then demoed the setup to a journalist who probably saw a career-making news item (how else would you explain THAT headline?).

Both mistakes which Maynor has (belatedly) acknowledged and regretted. But mistakes they willingly chose to make, because they wanted to make a point. So, I'm sorry to say this but, Maynor brought all this upon himself.

Imagine: if he and Ellch had simply stuck to their original premise, none of this angst would have happened. If you recall, their original premise was that this could be done on ANY platform, not just Apple. It's not about the operating system per se, it's really about wireless networking technology.

But, you know... they just didn't have an ashtray lying around their hotel room so they thought ah what the heck, those dewy eyes will do just as well.

And let's face it: Maynor (I suspect) is a adept at PR. He went after the juiciest target to get the maximum coverage. I've read about him and he sounds like a nice guy, but heck, he deserves what he wrought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maynor and Ellch probably did find something actually critical, but then their quest to stub cigarettes out in Mac user eyes led them astray. So they chose a MacBook and then demoed the setup to a journalist who probably saw a career-making news item (how else would you explain THAT headline?).</p>
<p>Both mistakes which Maynor has (belatedly) acknowledged and regretted. But mistakes they willingly chose to make, because they wanted to make a point. So, I&#8217;m sorry to say this but, Maynor brought all this upon himself.</p>
<p>Imagine: if he and Ellch had simply stuck to their original premise, none of this angst would have happened. If you recall, their original premise was that this could be done on ANY platform, not just Apple. It&#8217;s not about the operating system per se, it&#8217;s really about wireless networking technology.</p>
<p>But, you know&#8230; they just didn&#8217;t have an ashtray lying around their hotel room so they thought ah what the heck, those dewy eyes will do just as well.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s face it: Maynor (I suspect) is a adept at PR. He went after the juiciest target to get the maximum coverage. I&#8217;ve read about him and he sounds like a nice guy, but heck, he deserves what he wrought.</p>
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		<title>By: Rip Ragged</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/03/20/nazi-apple-supermen-are-our-superiors/#comment-11043</link>
		<dc:creator>Rip Ragged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oddly, in the comments of that post I saw several accusations by the anti-Mac crowd of Mac zealotry. The counter arguments were, for the most part, merely asking for tangible facts or fact-based explanations. Practically none of the "Mac zealots" said anything positive about Apple or negative about Microsoft.

They just thought Ou's comments were idiotic. A reasonable conclusion, that. When a guy uses his previous lame assertions as evidence to support his current lame assertions, you have to wonder if he's lacking some iodine in his thyroid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oddly, in the comments of that post I saw several accusations by the anti-Mac crowd of Mac zealotry. The counter arguments were, for the most part, merely asking for tangible facts or fact-based explanations. Practically none of the &#8220;Mac zealots&#8221; said anything positive about Apple or negative about Microsoft.</p>
<p>They just thought Ou&#8217;s comments were idiotic. A reasonable conclusion, that. When a guy uses his previous lame assertions as evidence to support his current lame assertions, you have to wonder if he&#8217;s lacking some iodine in his thyroid.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/03/20/nazi-apple-supermen-are-our-superiors/#comment-11041</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George must hallucinating, along with being delusional.  Exactly WHAT flaws is he saying that he "pointed out" to Chartier and Dalrymple?  I've read both their stories, and I don't see any flaws.  At least none that would be a smoking gun for a conspiracy theory.

But George has been exhibiting clinical symptoms of mental illness for a while.  Delusions of grandeur, paranoid tendencies, conspiracies involving large organizations out to "get" a small group of select insiders.  The list goes on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George must hallucinating, along with being delusional.  Exactly WHAT flaws is he saying that he &#8220;pointed out&#8221; to Chartier and Dalrymple?  I&#8217;ve read both their stories, and I don&#8217;t see any flaws.  At least none that would be a smoking gun for a conspiracy theory.</p>
<p>But George has been exhibiting clinical symptoms of mental illness for a while.  Delusions of grandeur, paranoid tendencies, conspiracies involving large organizations out to &#8220;get&#8221; a small group of select insiders.  The list goes on.</p>
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		<title>By: The Macalope</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/03/20/nazi-apple-supermen-are-our-superiors/#comment-11025</link>
		<dc:creator>The Macalope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point.  Thank you, Jim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point.  Thank you, Jim.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Ellison</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2007/03/20/nazi-apple-supermen-are-our-superiors/#comment-11021</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Ellison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: "cheapens what the Nazis did"

'Cheapens' would normally mean devaluing something good.

'Trivializes' would be a better word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;cheapens what the Nazis did&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8216;Cheapens&#8217; would normally mean devaluing something good.</p>
<p>&#8216;Trivializes&#8217; would be a better word.</p>
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