Comments on: Phone phone phonie phone phone phone http://www.macalope.com/2007/01/04/phone-phone-phonie-phone-phone-phone/ Apple news and analysis from everyone's favorite mythical Mac user Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:41:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Aaron http://www.macalope.com/2007/01/04/phone-phone-phonie-phone-phone-phone/#comment-3413 Aaron Fri, 05 Jan 2007 04:26:19 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=134#comment-3413 V M... I purposely stayed away from what features would be included in the phone and concentrated on the idea, how does Apple make money with phones and/or service? As you're not sure what would compel anyone to use a VoIP Apple phone, I'm not sure what would compel anyone to use an Apple cell phone. Among those who predict a cell phone, the compelling features you ask of VoIP are equally as absent. ME... I think the fact that you can't name the company that just released the iPhone speaks to my point that no VoIP hardware or service is setting the world on fire the same way Apple products often do. RIP... When the Mac came out, they may not have been selling much software and the OS may have been free, but Apple essentially created its own little ecosystem where it could (and certainly did) create software for sale. Software sales are a kind of renewable revenue stream, like VoIP service would be, and cell service through a third party would not. I agree that most networks are shit, which makes me wonder why Apple would want to rely on them to sell a product. I can't speak to the shittiness of specific phones, but there are a ton of phones out there and I find it hard to believe they're all awful. No real ideas have been presented as to how Apple would improve the state of cell phone interfaces, and it's separate of my point. The wireless phone market is mature in the sense that everyone who wants a cell phone most likely has one, and that any cell phone sales Apple hopes to make are turn-overs (or, to use a word all too familiar to me, "switchers") from other producers or service providers. I'm not talking about an Apple phone from a technical perspective, but from a business perspective. How does Apple make money in any phone market? Answer that question, and you'll have some idea what an Apple phone may be like. V M…
I purposely stayed away from what features would be included in the phone and concentrated on the idea, how does Apple make money with phones and/or service? As you’re not sure what would compel anyone to use a VoIP Apple phone, I’m not sure what would compel anyone to use an Apple cell phone. Among those who predict a cell phone, the compelling features you ask of VoIP are equally as absent.

ME…
I think the fact that you can’t name the company that just released the iPhone speaks to my point that no VoIP hardware or service is setting the world on fire the same way Apple products often do.

RIP…
When the Mac came out, they may not have been selling much software and the OS may have been free, but Apple essentially created its own little ecosystem where it could (and certainly did) create software for sale. Software sales are a kind of renewable revenue stream, like VoIP service would be, and cell service through a third party would not.

I agree that most networks are shit, which makes me wonder why Apple would want to rely on them to sell a product. I can’t speak to the shittiness of specific phones, but there are a ton of phones out there and I find it hard to believe they’re all awful. No real ideas have been presented as to how Apple would improve the state of cell phone interfaces, and it’s separate of my point.

The wireless phone market is mature in the sense that everyone who wants a cell phone most likely has one, and that any cell phone sales Apple hopes to make are turn-overs (or, to use a word all too familiar to me, “switchers”) from other producers or service providers.

I’m not talking about an Apple phone from a technical perspective, but from a business perspective. How does Apple make money in any phone market? Answer that question, and you’ll have some idea what an Apple phone may be like.

]]> By: Rip Ragged http://www.macalope.com/2007/01/04/phone-phone-phonie-phone-phone-phone/#comment-3411 Rip Ragged Fri, 05 Jan 2007 03:00:16 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=134#comment-3411 Funny. He failed to note that when the Mac came out, Apple wasn't selling much software. MacWrite, MacDraw, and MacPaint were about all there was from Apple. They gave away the system software. He also fails to note that most cell phones and networks are shit. People who want a cell phone pay through the nose for a decent one, or they get free crap. Then they pay through the nose for inferior service. The wireless phone market is not a mature market, because the best product/service combination is still pathetic. Funny. He failed to note that when the Mac came out, Apple wasn’t selling much software. MacWrite, MacDraw, and MacPaint were about all there was from Apple. They gave away the system software.

He also fails to note that most cell phones and networks are shit. People who want a cell phone pay through the nose for a decent one, or they get free crap. Then they pay through the nose for inferior service. The wireless phone market is not a mature market, because the best product/service combination is still pathetic.

]]> By: Me http://www.macalope.com/2007/01/04/phone-phone-phonie-phone-phone-phone/#comment-3408 Me Fri, 05 Jan 2007 01:14:20 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=134#comment-3408 Didn't some other company just come out with an entire line of iPhones that do exactly this? Aren't they all VOIP? Didn’t some other company just come out with an entire line of iPhones that do exactly this? Aren’t they all VOIP?

]]> By: The Macalope http://www.macalope.com/2007/01/04/phone-phone-phonie-phone-phone-phone/#comment-3405 The Macalope Fri, 05 Jan 2007 00:02:41 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=134#comment-3405 What part of "you can't argue with little tables" don't you understand?! What part of “you can’t argue with little tables” don’t you understand?!

]]> By: V M Respectable http://www.macalope.com/2007/01/04/phone-phone-phonie-phone-phone-phone/#comment-3403 V M Respectable Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:52:55 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=134#comment-3403 I... I just don't see it. I mean, I see how Apple could make a VoIP phone, and a very nice one, but I'm not sure what would compel anyone to use it, since it would be a VoIP phone. But a very nice one! I… I just don’t see it. I mean, I see how Apple could make a VoIP phone, and a very nice one, but I’m not sure what would compel anyone to use it, since it would be a VoIP phone. But a very nice one!

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