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	<title>Comments on: A new low in iPhone speculation assery</title>
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		<title>By: The Hard Six - Kanellos Misses the Point</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2006/12/07/a-new-low-in-iphone-speculation-assery/#comment-765</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hard Six - Kanellos Misses the Point</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update: Kanellos has received the highly coveted Jackass honors and has also been trampled on by the the Macalope. No surprises there. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Update: Kanellos has received the highly coveted Jackass honors and has also been trampled on by the the Macalope. No surprises there. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: swissfondue</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2006/12/07/a-new-low-in-iphone-speculation-assery/#comment-764</link>
		<dc:creator>swissfondue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Steve Jobs&quot;: That is exactly why I never visited that frigtard drunkenblog again. But I come here often.

By the way, I like your diary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Steve Jobs&#8221;: That is exactly why I never visited that frigtard drunkenblog again. But I come here often.</p>
<p>By the way, I like your diary.</p>
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		<title>By: GadgetGav</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2006/12/07/a-new-low-in-iphone-speculation-assery/#comment-763</link>
		<dc:creator>GadgetGav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the way Kanellos mentions the &#039;some&#039; thought the iMac price increase (in 2002) would drive other computer prices higher. This pearl of computer industry wisdom that he&#039;s referring to was just another opinion piece BY HIM..! How&#039;s that for conceited. Not only that, he&#039;s using is own WRONG predictions to try to bolster a new prediction. His last one was way off, so why should this one be any better..?
In all, the whole piece goes nowhere. I think it was probably driven by the fact that, as he said, it was his birthday and he probably spent his time doing other things and then realized he had to send in an article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the way Kanellos mentions the &#8216;some&#8217; thought the iMac price increase (in 2002) would drive other computer prices higher. This pearl of computer industry wisdom that he&#8217;s referring to was just another opinion piece BY HIM..! How&#8217;s that for conceited. Not only that, he&#8217;s using is own WRONG predictions to try to bolster a new prediction. His last one was way off, so why should this one be any better..?<br />
In all, the whole piece goes nowhere. I think it was probably driven by the fact that, as he said, it was his birthday and he probably spent his time doing other things and then realized he had to send in an article.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jobs</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2006/12/07/a-new-low-in-iphone-speculation-assery/#comment-762</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Jobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To everyone who is trying to discern the identity of the Macalope...

Perhaps you should wonder what a drunken blogger would do when he goes too far and pisses off the majority of his readership by reporting bugs in Apples web browser which in turn crash said browser whenever someone visits his blog?

Perhaps he starts up a new blog, with a secret identity, in the hope that people will forget his previous indiscretions and garner a new readership. He may have given up the drinking but the tone and analysis is the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To everyone who is trying to discern the identity of the Macalope&#8230;</p>
<p>Perhaps you should wonder what a drunken blogger would do when he goes too far and pisses off the majority of his readership by reporting bugs in Apples web browser which in turn crash said browser whenever someone visits his blog?</p>
<p>Perhaps he starts up a new blog, with a secret identity, in the hope that people will forget his previous indiscretions and garner a new readership. He may have given up the drinking but the tone and analysis is the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2006/12/07/a-new-low-in-iphone-speculation-assery/#comment-761</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexander: The VoIP capabilities/technologies you&#039;re suggesting in which the handset switches automatically from an internal (home or business) wifi connection to a standard cell network connection is already in the works by both carriers and the manufacturers (both handset and infrastructure), and there is especially a big interest in this from the IP leaders (think big networking companies)--it&#039;s sometimes referred to as telepresence technology, because your location can be tracked by where your phone is and therefore engage the right way to reach you. It would be cool if Apple were the first to offer this, but it&#039;s probably a bit early for this since the carriers haven&#039;t built any standards around this. And speaking of that...

Patrick: The US is really the onlly major country in which the carriers rule phone sales. Most countries use one primary technology (GSM or CDMA) and then the consumer buys any phone they want and stick in their carrier&#039;s SIM card. That practice hasn&#039;t hit the US and American consumers are used to the carrier-subsidized phones (the razor blade strategy), and thus this could be a problem. So you could be right that in the US it could be difficult because the carriers could not be cooperative, but it&#039;s the way it&#039;s done everywhere else. From that standpoint, I would tend to believe Kevin Rose&#039;s (jumbled) comments that the Apple phone would be availalbe through all the major carriers. Afterall, Jobs did get all the major music labels onboard iTunes for 99 cent songs. This is probably an easier sale, especially with the allure of iTunes bandwidth usage on the cell networks--because at the end of the day, that data bandwidth  the razor blades for carriers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexander: The VoIP capabilities/technologies you&#8217;re suggesting in which the handset switches automatically from an internal (home or business) wifi connection to a standard cell network connection is already in the works by both carriers and the manufacturers (both handset and infrastructure), and there is especially a big interest in this from the IP leaders (think big networking companies)&#8211;it&#8217;s sometimes referred to as telepresence technology, because your location can be tracked by where your phone is and therefore engage the right way to reach you. It would be cool if Apple were the first to offer this, but it&#8217;s probably a bit early for this since the carriers haven&#8217;t built any standards around this. And speaking of that&#8230;</p>
<p>Patrick: The US is really the onlly major country in which the carriers rule phone sales. Most countries use one primary technology (GSM or CDMA) and then the consumer buys any phone they want and stick in their carrier&#8217;s SIM card. That practice hasn&#8217;t hit the US and American consumers are used to the carrier-subsidized phones (the razor blade strategy), and thus this could be a problem. So you could be right that in the US it could be difficult because the carriers could not be cooperative, but it&#8217;s the way it&#8217;s done everywhere else. From that standpoint, I would tend to believe Kevin Rose&#8217;s (jumbled) comments that the Apple phone would be availalbe through all the major carriers. Afterall, Jobs did get all the major music labels onboard iTunes for 99 cent songs. This is probably an easier sale, especially with the allure of iTunes bandwidth usage on the cell networks&#8211;because at the end of the day, that data bandwidth  the razor blades for carriers.</p>
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		<title>By: Rip Ragged</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2006/12/07/a-new-low-in-iphone-speculation-assery/#comment-760</link>
		<dc:creator>Rip Ragged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 02:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, are there any C&#124;Net Archives back to 2001. I seem to recall that they predicted that the iPod would pretty much do in Apple. Based on their reliable reporting, I think I&#039;ll increase my position.

Oh, and Zunny-Blowdog, nice troll. Apple is a &quot;for-profit&quot; company in business to make money. It&#039;s easy to pick out Apple&#039;s failures. Apple actually innovates inside those pretty boxes. Their flops are headline news. Every time a hack or piece of malware is found that can even theoretically attack a Mac, it makes the front page. Windows malware isn&#039;t even news. It&#039;s listed in Section C, page 5, to the left of the crossword, underneath the Police Blotter. That there&#039;s a new virus for Windows is no more newsworthy than the atomic number of Uranium. (92)

Apple&#039;s stock has gone up by a factor of 10+ over the last few years. In case you missed day one of Economics 101, that is considered &quot;successful.&quot; That is far different from saying that every product they introduce is a success. On a percentage basis, if Apple enters the phone market, your best bet is to go long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, are there any C|Net Archives back to 2001. I seem to recall that they predicted that the iPod would pretty much do in Apple. Based on their reliable reporting, I think I&#8217;ll increase my position.</p>
<p>Oh, and Zunny-Blowdog, nice troll. Apple is a &#8220;for-profit&#8221; company in business to make money. It&#8217;s easy to pick out Apple&#8217;s failures. Apple actually innovates inside those pretty boxes. Their flops are headline news. Every time a hack or piece of malware is found that can even theoretically attack a Mac, it makes the front page. Windows malware isn&#8217;t even news. It&#8217;s listed in Section C, page 5, to the left of the crossword, underneath the Police Blotter. That there&#8217;s a new virus for Windows is no more newsworthy than the atomic number of Uranium. (92)</p>
<p>Apple&#8217;s stock has gone up by a factor of 10+ over the last few years. In case you missed day one of Economics 101, that is considered &#8220;successful.&#8221; That is far different from saying that every product they introduce is a success. On a percentage basis, if Apple enters the phone market, your best bet is to go long.</p>
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		<title>By: selfish</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2006/12/07/a-new-low-in-iphone-speculation-assery/#comment-759</link>
		<dc:creator>selfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 02:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the only reason an iphone seems so silly to everyone is the insane US phone market - in more civilised countires, where GSM is the standard, and phones don&#039;t have anything to do with the carrier, apple would have no problem producing a phone. as it stands now - when the US is the biggest market for apple - not going to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the only reason an iphone seems so silly to everyone is the insane US phone market &#8211; in more civilised countires, where GSM is the standard, and phones don&#8217;t have anything to do with the carrier, apple would have no problem producing a phone. as it stands now &#8211; when the US is the biggest market for apple &#8211; not going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2006/12/07/a-new-low-in-iphone-speculation-assery/#comment-758</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 04:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never had a desire to own a cell phone. I don&#039;t know much about them. I&#039;ve had three iPods. I&#039;ll own more.

If I could pick up my iPod and call my babysitter, that would be pretty swell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never had a desire to own a cell phone. I don&#8217;t know much about them. I&#8217;ve had three iPods. I&#8217;ll own more.</p>
<p>If I could pick up my iPod and call my babysitter, that would be pretty swell.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2006/12/07/a-new-low-in-iphone-speculation-assery/#comment-757</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 01:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Apple isn&#039;t partnered with an existing carrier or cellphone manufacturer who is, the carriers will make any Apple phone, no matter how good, a market failure. To think Apple (or anyone) can pull off phones for different network topologies without carrier backing is foolish. I just don&#039;t see Apple being able to build their own cell phone from scratch, and yes, analog radio circuitry design is in fact black magic. EE students learn this right after they build their first circuit that is perfect on paper and doesn&#039;t work in the messy world of the physical universe.

All that said, I could definitely see an Apple phone being a new UI on Symbian. Series 60 is beautiful enough to satisfy even Steve Jobs, is rock solid to boot, and the latest series three has a highly abstracted presentation layer suitable for different formats. As others have pointed out above, the key to an Apple phone (and really, who says it is a cell phone?) might be an iLife player. Now that would be something other manufacturers don&#039;t have.

Apple UI on Series 60 phones built by Nokia seems the way to do it, in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Apple isn&#8217;t partnered with an existing carrier or cellphone manufacturer who is, the carriers will make any Apple phone, no matter how good, a market failure. To think Apple (or anyone) can pull off phones for different network topologies without carrier backing is foolish. I just don&#8217;t see Apple being able to build their own cell phone from scratch, and yes, analog radio circuitry design is in fact black magic. EE students learn this right after they build their first circuit that is perfect on paper and doesn&#8217;t work in the messy world of the physical universe.</p>
<p>All that said, I could definitely see an Apple phone being a new UI on Symbian. Series 60 is beautiful enough to satisfy even Steve Jobs, is rock solid to boot, and the latest series three has a highly abstracted presentation layer suitable for different formats. As others have pointed out above, the key to an Apple phone (and really, who says it is a cell phone?) might be an iLife player. Now that would be something other manufacturers don&#8217;t have.</p>
<p>Apple UI on Series 60 phones built by Nokia seems the way to do it, in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Macalope</title>
		<link>http://www.macalope.com/2006/12/07/a-new-low-in-iphone-speculation-assery/#comment-756</link>
		<dc:creator>Macalope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Jeff, Zunny&#039;s IP address shows he&#039;s at Playboy, Inc.  So his fantasy world is actually quite rich.

Or maybe &quot;he&#039;s&quot; a playmate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Jeff, Zunny&#8217;s IP address shows he&#8217;s at Playboy, Inc.  So his fantasy world is actually quite rich.</p>
<p>Or maybe &#8220;he&#8217;s&#8221; a playmate.</p>
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