Comments on: Ou, boy. http://www.macalope.com/2006/11/01/ou-boy/ Apple news and analysis from everyone's favorite mythical Mac user Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:32:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: News http://www.macalope.com/2006/11/01/ou-boy/#comment-975 News Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:22:15 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=87#comment-975 <strong>Flaw discovered in older Airport drivers, blogosphere erupts into flames...</strong> You may remember some weeks back the whole brouhaha over a supposed flaw in wireless drivers discovered by David Maynor and Jon Ellch of SecureWorks. For the most part, we here at Deep Thought ignored the whole issue, but some corners of the blogospher... Flaw discovered in older Airport drivers, blogosphere erupts into flames…

You may remember some weeks back the whole brouhaha over a supposed flaw in wireless drivers discovered by David Maynor and Jon Ellch of SecureWorks. For the most part, we here at Deep Thought ignored the whole issue, but some corners of the blogospher…

]]> By: Doc Barnett http://www.macalope.com/2006/11/01/ou-boy/#comment-968 Doc Barnett Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:30:42 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=87#comment-968 This isn't the first time Ou has "blogged," unfortunately. http://technically.us/doc/articles/2006/09/28/stop-george-ou-before-he-ruins-weblogs-for-everyone This isn’t the first time Ou has “blogged,” unfortunately. http://technically.us/doc/articles/2006/09/28/stop-george-ou-before-he-ruins-weblogs-for-everyone

]]> By: LKM http://www.macalope.com/2006/11/01/ou-boy/#comment-962 LKM Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:28:13 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=87#comment-962 Okay, I have a serious question. How old is Ou? I would expect somebody writing for zdnet to be at least 20 years old. But then I read sentences like the one quoted by the Antler'd: >The Kernel Fun blog which released this >exploit also cited a blog I wrote about >Apple refusing to give credit to security >researchers where Apple admitted they >got the information that prompted an >internal audit leading to a patch but >refuses to give any credit to the >researchers. ...and I start to wonder. Now, english isn't my first language. It's not even my second. In Switzerland, you're forced to learn tons of languages before you get to learn English. So I will fully admit that my english skills could never measure up to those of a native person. But then I read Ou's, well... crap, and I think to myself: This guy can't be older than 12. He *looks* older on this picture, but... oh, the sentences! They hurt so much! Of course, it's absolutely possible that English isn't Ou's first language, either. But if that is the case, why not have his entries checked by an editor? I realize this is absolutely orthogonal to the issue at hand, but I can't help but think that somebody who writes such incoherent, rambling sentences can't possibly be trusted with *anything*. Okay, I have a serious question. How old is Ou? I would expect somebody writing for zdnet to be at least 20 years old. But then I read sentences like the one quoted by the Antler’d:

>The Kernel Fun blog which released this
>exploit also cited a blog I wrote about
>Apple refusing to give credit to security
>researchers where Apple admitted they
>got the information that prompted an
>internal audit leading to a patch but
>refuses to give any credit to the
>researchers.

…and I start to wonder. Now, english isn’t my first language. It’s not even my second. In Switzerland, you’re forced to learn tons of languages before you get to learn English. So I will fully admit that my english skills could never measure up to those of a native person.

But then I read Ou’s, well… crap, and I think to myself: This guy can’t be older than 12. He *looks* older on this picture, but… oh, the sentences! They hurt so much! Of course, it’s absolutely possible that English isn’t Ou’s first language, either. But if that is the case, why not have his entries checked by an editor?

I realize this is absolutely orthogonal to the issue at hand, but I can’t help but think that somebody who writes such incoherent, rambling sentences can’t possibly be trusted with *anything*.

]]> By: Drew Thaler http://www.macalope.com/2006/11/01/ou-boy/#comment-961 Drew Thaler Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:25:11 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=87#comment-961 Let me put on my "Apple community" hat now: Hey, this exploit sounds like an actual exploit. I don't think it's imaginary. Unlike that last one which was never documented, never had any details disclosed, or was even "run" more than once in a very odd and smoke-and-mirrors kind of way by people who suddenly and abnormally clammed up. Happy, George? Oh, you cute little widdly-bumpkin. You're never happy, are you? Angry-wangry! You're so adorable. Let me put on my “Apple community” hat now: Hey, this exploit sounds like an actual exploit. I don’t think it’s imaginary. Unlike that last one which was never documented, never had any details disclosed, or was even “run” more than once in a very odd and smoke-and-mirrors kind of way by people who suddenly and abnormally clammed up.

Happy, George? Oh, you cute little widdly-bumpkin. You’re never happy, are you? Angry-wangry! You’re so adorable.

]]> By: Crazy Apple Rumors Site » Blog Archive » Security Bitch Watch - the Sequel! http://www.macalope.com/2006/11/01/ou-boy/#comment-958 Crazy Apple Rumors Site » Blog Archive » Security Bitch Watch - the Sequel! Thu, 02 Nov 2006 05:50:49 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=87#comment-958 [...] Macalope! [...] [...] Macalope! [...]

]]> By: Alex http://www.macalope.com/2006/11/01/ou-boy/#comment-957 Alex Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:11:53 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=87#comment-957 Macalope! Jon Grubber want's to buy you a beer! That's a hell of an honor: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2006/november#wed-01-macalope Macalope! Jon Grubber want’s to buy you a beer! That’s a hell of an honor: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2006/november#wed-01-macalope

]]> By: anonymous http://www.macalope.com/2006/11/01/ou-boy/#comment-956 anonymous Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:37:04 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=87#comment-956 Actually, what makes George Ou both so funny and so unreadable is his inability to compose grammatical English sentences. I know, "editors" are so twentieth-century, but seriously -- I can't parse half of his sentences. Actually, what makes George Ou both so funny and so unreadable is his inability to compose grammatical English sentences. I know, “editors” are so twentieth-century, but seriously — I can’t parse half of his sentences.

]]> By: TjL http://www.macalope.com/2006/11/01/ou-boy/#comment-955 TjL Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:32:51 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=87#comment-955 The email address form for the editor in chief is here: http://blogs.zdnet.com/emailform.php?email=berlind Note: in the time it took me to write a not-long email, the "security image" expired. So write in another window and then paste it into there. The email address form for the editor in chief is here:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/emailform.php?email=berlind

Note: in the time it took me to write a not-long email, the “security image” expired. So write in another window and then paste it into there.

]]> By: Bill http://www.macalope.com/2006/11/01/ou-boy/#comment-954 Bill Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:15:17 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=87#comment-954 As an actual member of the security research community, the following really pissed me off: "The explanation given to me by members of the research community for this sudden disclosure was that these exploits are always “imaginary” to Apple and there are no exploits for the Mac" I've dealt with Apple before, and am credited in their security updates, and have always found them professional (I also made this comment on Ou's blog, but obviously he's not going to respond). It would be nice if Ou had ever talked with someone who actually had communicated with Apple's Product Security team on an issue, and THEN get their response. And sadly, that does not include Maynor/Ellich (until after most of the publicity had occurred, and now I doubt they're willing to make any comments). As an actual member of the security research community, the following really pissed me off:
“The explanation given to me by members of the research community for this sudden disclosure was that these exploits are always “imaginary” to Apple and there are no exploits for the Mac”

I’ve dealt with Apple before, and am credited in their security updates, and have always found them professional (I also made this comment on Ou’s blog, but obviously he’s not going to respond). It would be nice if Ou had ever talked with someone who actually had communicated with Apple’s Product Security team on an issue, and THEN get their response. And sadly, that does not include Maynor/Ellich (until after most of the publicity had occurred, and now I doubt they’re willing to make any comments).

]]> By: fudo http://www.macalope.com/2006/11/01/ou-boy/#comment-952 fudo Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:56:14 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=87#comment-952 Me, I'm not going to visit Ouseless' blog ever again. But really, this guy is so wrong, so often, that I poked around on zdnet unsuccessfully looking for somewhere to send a complaint. Anyone got an editor addy for zdne? Me, I’m not going to visit Ouseless’ blog ever again. But really, this guy is so wrong, so often, that I poked around on zdnet unsuccessfully looking for somewhere to send a complaint. Anyone got an editor addy for zdne?

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