Comments on: Thanks for the suggestion. But no. http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/thanks-for-the-suggestion-but-no/ Apple news and analysis from everyone's favorite mythical Mac user Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:11:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: The Macalope » Blog Archive » Maybe it wasn’t such a bad idea after all http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/thanks-for-the-suggestion-but-no/#comment-19184 The Macalope » Blog Archive » Maybe it wasn’t such a bad idea after all Thu, 03 May 2007 16:36:34 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=75#comment-19184 [...] You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your ownsite. [...] [...] You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your ownsite. [...]

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]]> By: Macalope http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/thanks-for-the-suggestion-but-no/#comment-549 Macalope Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:58:57 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=75#comment-549 Dhrakar, the Macalope really meant outsourcing everything. The design, the product development, etc. Yes, the Macalope fondly remembers watching the airbill for his Mac as it winged its way from Asia. Dhrakar, the Macalope really meant outsourcing everything. The design, the product development, etc. Yes, the Macalope fondly remembers watching the airbill for his Mac as it winged its way from Asia.

]]> By: Jim Gleeson http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/thanks-for-the-suggestion-but-no/#comment-546 Jim Gleeson Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:26:02 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=75#comment-546 This reminds me of that Dvorak article where he postulated that Apple was going to become exclusively a hardware company and basically discontinue the use of OS X altogether. These pundits, on both sides of the fence just do not get it. The reason why Apple does both the hardware and the software is to ensure an integrated user experience with a minimum of hassles. I still make an analysis of my own that these people want us to all be as miserable as they are using the Windows platform. This reminds me of that Dvorak article where he postulated that Apple was going to become exclusively a hardware company and basically discontinue the use of OS X altogether. These pundits, on both sides of the fence just do not get it. The reason why Apple does both the hardware and the software is to ensure an integrated user experience with a minimum of hassles.

I still make an analysis of my own that these people want us to all be as miserable as they are using the Windows platform.

]]> By: Dhrakar http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/thanks-for-the-suggestion-but-no/#comment-545 Dhrakar Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:00:16 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=75#comment-545 Um, doesn't Apple, essentially, _already_ outsource the manufacturing of its systems? That is, every iPod and every laptop I've seen in the last several years has a little sticker that starts out "Designed by Apple in California..." So, unless The Antlered One meant 'start using more outsourcing for design of components', I think that the outsourcing horse has already left Cupertino. Um, doesn’t Apple, essentially, _already_ outsource the manufacturing of its systems? That is, every iPod and every laptop I’ve seen in the last several years has a little sticker that starts out “Designed by Apple in California…”
So, unless The Antlered One meant ’start using more outsourcing for design of components’, I think that the outsourcing horse has already left Cupertino.

]]> By: GadgetGav http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/thanks-for-the-suggestion-but-no/#comment-542 GadgetGav Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:47:48 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=75#comment-542 I just checked the bios of the reports authors... Top notch tech people... Mark Stahlman BS, Genetics, UW Madison Graduate work, Theology, Univ. of Chicago Graduate work, Molecular Biology, UW Madison Charles Smulders B.S., with honors, University of Birmingham, England (doesn't say what subject) I went to University of Birmingham and got a similar degree - mine's in Engineering. Maybe there's a bright new career waiting for me at Gartner. Sure sounds like it beats working for a living. I just checked the bios of the reports authors… Top notch tech people…

Mark Stahlman
BS, Genetics, UW Madison
Graduate work, Theology, Univ. of Chicago
Graduate work, Molecular Biology, UW Madison

Charles Smulders
B.S., with honors, University of Birmingham, England
(doesn’t say what subject)

I went to University of Birmingham and got a similar degree - mine’s in Engineering. Maybe there’s a bright new career waiting for me at Gartner. Sure sounds like it beats working for a living.

]]> By: GadgetGav http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/thanks-for-the-suggestion-but-no/#comment-541 GadgetGav Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:37:47 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=75#comment-541 Wow... where do they find these analysis..? I can't believe people get paid (and probably paid obscene amounts) to write reports like that. They must just have too much time on their hands. The fact that Michael Dell has said he'd gladly sell OS X means it isn't going to happen. Once he admits that, it's like admitting Apple is a real threat. Comparable core hardware, vastly superior industrial design, award winning customer service and OS X - why wouldn't they be a threat and why would Apple give all that up to licence to Dell. Maybe these analyists were too young to know about computers the last time Apple licenced their OS out to other hardware manufacturers. Makes you want to go around to Gartner and smack some heads together doesn't it..! Wow… where do they find these analysis..? I can’t believe people get paid (and probably paid obscene amounts) to write reports like that. They must just have too much time on their hands.
The fact that Michael Dell has said he’d gladly sell OS X means it isn’t going to happen. Once he admits that, it’s like admitting Apple is a real threat. Comparable core hardware, vastly superior industrial design, award winning customer service and OS X - why wouldn’t they be a threat and why would Apple give all that up to licence to Dell.
Maybe these analyists were too young to know about computers the last time Apple licenced their OS out to other hardware manufacturers.
Makes you want to go around to Gartner and smack some heads together doesn’t it..!

]]> By: Cooner http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/thanks-for-the-suggestion-but-no/#comment-538 Cooner Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:07:03 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=75#comment-538 *sigh* (1) Repeat after me, boys and girls: Apple makes most of its profit as a hardware manufacturer. Even aside from the quality-control issues of "designing the whole widget" ... it's very likely that Apple would need to sell a bajillion copies of OSX to earn the same kind of profits they do off their current hardware sales. And that's not considering that unless they added Onnerous Copy Protection(tm) and licensing features to their installations, pirated copies of OSX would spread like wildfire and no doubt replace a good number of those bajillions they'd need to be selling. (2) License to Dell ...? Bwahaha. I know Dell has *said* they would like to license OSX ... but does anyone really think Microsoft would let them get away with that? If actually presented with the opportunity, I don't think Dell would take the risk that their millions of business and enterprise buyers would instantly jump ship to MacOS ... and in the meantime they would no doubt lose any preferred bulk licensing deals they get with Microsoft, driving up the cost of their Windows installations. BTW, was pointed to your site weeks ago from Daring Fireball. Great work, Macalope. :) *sigh*

(1) Repeat after me, boys and girls: Apple makes most of its profit as a hardware manufacturer. Even aside from the quality-control issues of “designing the whole widget” … it’s very likely that Apple would need to sell a bajillion copies of OSX to earn the same kind of profits they do off their current hardware sales. And that’s not considering that unless they added Onnerous Copy Protection(tm) and licensing features to their installations, pirated copies of OSX would spread like wildfire and no doubt replace a good number of those bajillions they’d need to be selling.

(2) License to Dell …? Bwahaha. I know Dell has *said* they would like to license OSX … but does anyone really think Microsoft would let them get away with that? If actually presented with the opportunity, I don’t think Dell would take the risk that their millions of business and enterprise buyers would instantly jump ship to MacOS … and in the meantime they would no doubt lose any preferred bulk licensing deals they get with Microsoft, driving up the cost of their Windows installations.

BTW, was pointed to your site weeks ago from Daring Fireball. Great work, Macalope. :)

]]> By: pedro http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/thanks-for-the-suggestion-but-no/#comment-537 pedro Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:12:19 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=75#comment-537 After only glancing over the article, I'm gathering that these people think this way because they think Apple stands to make a load of cash by doing so. Although a load of cash sounds good to me, I'm sure an extensive conversation could be had about Apple's motives in the marketplace. I don't think one of those is to make insane amounts of money. With profits the way they are, things looks just fine for most of the people who matter at Apple. I'll sum up my comments by saying that I believe that Apple is about the user experience, and making great things… but a load of cash never hurts feelings. (do macalopes even like leafy greens?) After only glancing over the article, I’m gathering that these people think this way because they think Apple stands to make a load of cash by doing so. Although a load of cash sounds good to me, I’m sure an extensive conversation could be had about Apple’s motives in the marketplace. I don’t think one of those is to make insane amounts of money. With profits the way they are, things looks just fine for most of the people who matter at Apple. I’ll sum up my comments by saying that I believe that Apple is about the user experience, and making great things… but a load of cash never hurts feelings. (do macalopes even like leafy greens?)

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