Comments on: Dear Apple… http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/dear-apple/ Full of sound and furry Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:20:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The Macalope » Blog Archive » More security professionalism, please. http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/dear-apple/#comment-451 The Macalope » Blog Archive » More security professionalism, please. Mon, 05 Feb 2007 06:53:33 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=71#comment-451 [...] That incident, by the way, was marked by a universal condemnation of Apple’s comment from Apple bloggers (including the Macalope) and suggestions that the company needs to take security more seriously, an inconvenient truth for Maynor who loves to rail against Mac zealots. [...] [...] That incident, by the way, was marked by a universal condemnation of Apple’s comment from Apple bloggers (including the Macalope) and suggestions that the company needs to take security more seriously, an inconvenient truth for Maynor who loves to rail against Mac zealots. [...]

]]> By: Martin http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/dear-apple/#comment-450 Martin Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:27:52 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=71#comment-450 I don't think Apple was using Dvorakian/Jackassian tactics and I do think it was silly to be so snarky about Windows given that ultimately iPods are Apple's product, so they're Apple's responsibility. It was my understanding however, that because of it's inherent architectural flaws, even if Windows marketshare was more like the Mac's of today, it would still be easier to hack. So, certainly there is more interest in the Mac now, but this doesn't mean it's as easy to maliciously hack as Windows is. This is not to say that Mac users or especially Apple should be smug by any means, but just a point of clarification. Apple, should certainly focus less on jabbing at Windows and more on keeping their security superior, but by all accounts of which I'm aware, Windows is far less secure and therefore easier to maliciously hack AND it's more ubiquitous due to capitalist circumstance, so I fail to see how this situation portends that MacOSX will become just as vulnerable as it's popularity increases. I'm just sayin'... I don’t think Apple was using Dvorakian/Jackassian tactics and I do think it was silly to be so snarky about Windows given that ultimately iPods are Apple’s product, so they’re Apple’s responsibility. It was my understanding however, that because of it’s inherent architectural flaws, even if Windows marketshare was more like the Mac’s of today, it would still be easier to hack. So, certainly there is more interest in the Mac now, but this doesn’t mean it’s as easy to maliciously hack as Windows is.

This is not to say that Mac users or especially Apple should be smug by any means, but just a point of clarification. Apple, should certainly focus less on jabbing at Windows and more on keeping their security superior, but by all accounts of which I’m aware, Windows is far less secure and therefore easier to maliciously hack AND it’s more ubiquitous due to capitalist circumstance, so I fail to see how this situation portends that MacOSX will become just as vulnerable as it’s popularity increases.

I’m just sayin’…

]]> By: tm http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/dear-apple/#comment-449 tm Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:37:59 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=71#comment-449 Personaly I think it was brilliant, but from a different perspective than it was a good jab. Think about it. By that one little snide comment, Apple has ensured that EVERYONE will be linking to that page or linking to a page that links to the comment. It's brilliant, it ensures that people will actualy visit the page and learn what they need to do and even better is that it gets more people talking about it, so more people hear about it so more people get the problem fixed. I bet if we took a look at the unique page views for Apples public statement with the links to the anti virus software vs the page views for the recent battery recall just 2 days after both announcements that it's much much much much higher for the iPod one. I think Apple is just using the same techniques that people like Dvorak and Thurrott and every member of DF's Jackass of the Week club do to generate page views and ad revenues. Say something out of line and stupid, get everyone pissed, and have everyone pay attention. Personaly I think it was brilliant, but from a different perspective than it was a good jab. Think about it. By that one little snide comment, Apple has ensured that EVERYONE will be linking to that page or linking to a page that links to the comment. It’s brilliant, it ensures that people will actualy visit the page and learn what they need to do and even better is that it gets more people talking about it, so more people hear about it so more people get the problem fixed. I bet if we took a look at the unique page views for Apples public statement with the links to the anti virus software vs the page views for the recent battery recall just 2 days after both announcements that it’s much much much much higher for the iPod one.

I think Apple is just using the same techniques that people like Dvorak and Thurrott and every member of DF’s Jackass of the Week club do to generate page views and ad revenues. Say something out of line and stupid, get everyone pissed, and have everyone pay attention.

]]> By: 43f Links for Thursday, October 19th | 43 Folders http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/dear-apple/#comment-448 43f Links for Thursday, October 19th | 43 Folders Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:20:51 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=71#comment-448 [...] 43f Links for Thursday, October 19th The Macalope » Blog Archive » Dear Apple… “But shipping virus-infected iPods was your mistake. Not Microsoft’s.” (tagged: microsoft ipod security viruses mac apple) Hawk Wings » Blog Archive » Why do people call it “Mail.app”? Ever try to Google help for “Mail?” Might as well be looking for an app called “The” or “Sex.” It’s a really stupid name. [via:Daring Fireball.net] (tagged: osx mac apple dumbnames mail.app mail via:DaringFireball.net) An interview with Jim Donald, CEO and president, Starbucks - October 16, 2006 I love ‘how I work’ pieces like this, and this fellow seems to have a lot on the ball. [Thanks, Rebecca Blood] (tagged: howiwork interviews worldofwork) Word Spy - potty whispering “She removed his diaper, held his bottom over a potty with his knees pulled into his chest, and . . . the rest is history.” (tagged: toilettraining heh) [...] [...] 43f Links for Thursday, October 19th The Macalope » Blog Archive » Dear Apple… “But shipping virus-infected iPods was your mistake. Not Microsoft’s.” (tagged: microsoft ipod security viruses mac apple) Hawk Wings » Blog Archive » Why do people call it “Mail.app”? Ever try to Google help for “Mail?” Might as well be looking for an app called “The” or “Sex.” It’s a really stupid name. [via:Daring Fireball.net] (tagged: osx mac apple dumbnames mail.app mail via:DaringFireball.net) An interview with Jim Donald, CEO and president, Starbucks – October 16, 2006 I love ‘how I work’ pieces like this, and this fellow seems to have a lot on the ball. [Thanks, Rebecca Blood] (tagged: howiwork interviews worldofwork) Word Spy – potty whispering “She removed his diaper, held his bottom over a potty with his knees pulled into his chest, and . . . the rest is history.” (tagged: toilettraining heh) [...]

]]> By: FredB http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/dear-apple/#comment-447 FredB Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:30:01 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=71#comment-447 You totally miss the point. This is not a security problem, this a leak of a beta test for a future firmware update. The day Leopard will be release, millions of windows computers which have been connected to an iPod once will form a mega cluster and kick all the others windows system out of the internets then burn. Apple will then start an exchange program "Massive reduction if you exchange your recent PC for a new mac" saying they do this to help the poor people screwed by Microsoft. A new world is coming. Our time has come, brothers. You totally miss the point.
This is not a security problem, this a leak of a beta test for a future firmware update.

The day Leopard will be release, millions of windows computers which have been connected to an iPod once will form a mega cluster and kick all the others windows system out of the internets then burn.
Apple will then start an exchange program “Massive reduction if you exchange your recent PC for a new mac” saying they do this to help the poor people screwed by Microsoft.

A new world is coming. Our time has come, brothers.

]]> By: GadgetGav http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/dear-apple/#comment-446 GadgetGav Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:25:38 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=71#comment-446 Well said Macalope. I aslo agree with Ken, Apple should look at the reaction on pro-Mac sites to see how low that comment was. The reason it slipped through the net may be outsourcing, but that doesn't matter to end users. They buy an Apple product, they open a box with the Apple logo on it, the software (apart from the virus) is written by Apple, so it's Apple's problem. The end user should not need to know or care who actually puts the chips on the circuit board. I'm not sure I agree (as some have said) that Apple should be providing full versions of anti virus software though. Most Windows users should have it anyway, and Apple should only have to clear up the mess from this worm, not from anything the Windows box picks up next week or next month and a 30 day version is good enough for that. Well said Macalope. I aslo agree with Ken, Apple should look at the reaction on pro-Mac sites to see how low that comment was.
The reason it slipped through the net may be outsourcing, but that doesn’t matter to end users. They buy an Apple product, they open a box with the Apple logo on it, the software (apart from the virus) is written by Apple, so it’s Apple’s problem. The end user should not need to know or care who actually puts the chips on the circuit board.
I’m not sure I agree (as some have said) that Apple should be providing full versions of anti virus software though. Most Windows users should have it anyway, and Apple should only have to clear up the mess from this worm, not from anything the Windows box picks up next week or next month and a 30 day version is good enough for that.

]]> By: pauldwaite http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/dear-apple/#comment-445 pauldwaite Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:58:24 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=71#comment-445 <blockquote> Their warmth in the middle of the night. </blockquote> Dude. The first rule of doing your Macbook is you DO NOT TALK about doing your Macbook.

Their warmth in the middle of the night.

Dude. The first rule of doing your Macbook is you DO NOT TALK about doing your Macbook.

]]> By: Ken http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/dear-apple/#comment-444 Ken Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:52:25 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=71#comment-444 Well, to be absolutely fair, the reason I sounded like Matt Detherage was that I saw the DF link first... Well, to be absolutely fair, the reason I sounded like Matt Detherage was that I saw the DF link first…

]]> By: BKWatch http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/dear-apple/#comment-443 BKWatch Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:17:53 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=71#comment-443 Ok, ok, ok. You're right, but, this is really about outsourcing, not security. It's not as if Apple ever sees an Ipod before it gets shipped. Some little dude in China does. Apple build quality has dropped through the floor after starting their entire process in China. Look at Powerbooks (MacBooks). Apple should have have taken the low road and attacked MS on this one, but the breakdown in Apple was a monitoring breakdown, not a security breakdown. Ok, ok, ok. You’re right, but, this is really about outsourcing, not security. It’s not as if Apple ever sees an Ipod before it gets shipped. Some little dude in China does. Apple build quality has dropped through the floor after starting their entire process in China. Look at Powerbooks (MacBooks). Apple should have have taken the low road and attacked MS on this one, but the breakdown in Apple was a monitoring breakdown, not a security breakdown.

]]> By: pedro http://www.macalope.com/2006/10/18/dear-apple/#comment-442 pedro Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:13:51 +0000 http://www.macalope.com/?p=71#comment-442 Agreed. PR releases for self-inflicted wounds should be more even keeled. Let the windows bashing stay in the commercials. <a href="http://friends.macjournals.com/blogstaging/2006/10/18#a34" rel="nofollow">Matt Detherage</a> (via Daring Fireball) had similar words to Ken's and the Macalope's. Agreed. PR releases for self-inflicted wounds should be more even keeled. Let the windows bashing stay in the commercials. Matt Detherage (via Daring Fireball) had similar words to Ken’s and the Macalope’s.

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